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Reconciliation: Racial Equity Across Systems (including health, economics, education, etc.) - Shared screen with speaker view
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
58:18
Yes! we have Tom Modica, City Manager. Linda Tatum, Assistant City Manager. Teresa Chandler, Deputy City Manager. Becky Garner, Administrative Deputy City Manager here with us on the call.
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
58:49
Furthermore, everything that is discussed here will be relayed back to City Council in the form of policy recommendations.
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
59:06
Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rnXAM2w4nZv_YtuJLcwpLCOqucNYtIqOxujNqNDBej4/edit
Christopher Covington
01:01:45
I am happy to be here. I have already completed the survey.
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:02:23
Thanks Christopher!
Lawrence Rosenthal
01:02:54
I am here to learn, don't need to speak. BTW my zoom says Lawrence Rosenthal, but actually I am Kate Sachnoff :)
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:03:08
Thanks for joining us Kate :)
Pam Tan LBC
01:03:38
Even if the sessions are recorded it precludes those of us not able to attend from participating in the polls live
Liz
01:04:07
Can we ask a question in the chat or it has to be voice?
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:04:23
questions can definitely be asked in the chat, Liz
triciaree
01:04:44
Agreeing with Savannah on the police budget!
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:05:02
and Pam, for those that are not able to attend live, we have a survey on our Equity Office website
Pam Tan LBC
01:06:21
Would like to tag on, Why is the listening only beginning now? The topics we will cover today are things black and brown communities have been talking about for decades.
Savannah
01:06:45
Its honestly insulting that the first question is "HOw has racism affected you?"
Savannah
01:06:59
After you've just listed 10+ ways long beach is failing its black residents
Lawrence Casuga
01:07:46
With regards to police budgeting and oncoming reforms, is there any existing traction in the docket for this? It might do good to hear any immediate measures being taken for this to give us peace of mind.
Pam Tan LBC
01:08:44
Structural racism involves not just issues of police violence but also gentrification and environmental injustice.
Pam Tan LBC
01:09:39
Like police violence, this is nothing new. Our council members know fully well; if they don’t know they don’t belong in council. If they know but haven’t acted on this, they’re remiss on their duties.
Savannah
01:10:13
Exactly. The council knows. Tom Modica knows. This all just feels like fanfare
Savannah
01:10:17
I agree with Eduardo
Savannah
01:11:16
I agree with Charlie
Savannah
01:12:13
I have a question
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:12:41
Lawrence, I'm looking into that right now for you.
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:12:47
Go ahead Savannah
Savannah
01:12:54
Did this event "sell out"? Did everyone who wanted to attend tonight get the opportunity?
Pam Tan LBC
01:13:49
Students at Stephens still can’t drink out of drinking fountains. Kids are sitting in class dehydrated because they don’t have money for bottled water.
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:14:10
Tonights event did meet its capacity, yes. In order to accommodate more community members, we have added more sessions (town halls) that can accommodate up to 1000 people so everyone that wishes to attend can do so during those sessions
ADRIANNE's iPhone
01:14:31
I agree. all schools should be equally as good as the next.
Savannah
01:14:41
Why did tonight meet its capacity?
Gricelda Alcantar
01:16:09
Agreed 100%
Savannah
01:17:08
Agree
Savannah
01:17:15
Thank you Chris.
Lawrence Casuga
01:17:21
Thanks, additionally, generalizing the topic of budget, is there a link to any resources showing the allocation of our city’s budget? With any corresponding special projects or initiatives attached to those sections. (I’m sure it could be on the .gov website somewhere, but I’m afraid I’m not too good at navigating)
Pam Tan LBC
01:17:58
Additionally in regards to schools, there is a larger police presence at north and west side schools specifically. There are permanent school safety officers parked outside of certain schools (for example, Lindbergh)
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:18:08
In our initial planning phases, our team was going back and forth about how best to hold space for everyone that wants to participate and discuss. Initially, we were thinking that smaller more intimate groups would allow for the most robust participation and discussion so that everyone would have the ability to talk and share. The larger the group, the harder it is to make sure everyone can chime in. However, we heard from many community members that they wanted to expand the participant capacity so we increased it from 20 to 50. There has been a great deal of interest so they filled up once increased to 50.
Liz
01:18:10
Yes Pam!
Pam Tan LBC
01:18:38
It’s intimidating students and I have personally heard a teacher’s aide threatening to call them on a black student for allegedly stealing
Savannah
01:18:59
I agree with Marianne
triciaree
01:19:39
Agree with Savannah!
Pam Tan LBC
01:19:45
Why is Tom Modica participating in this session? his office is part and parcel of structural racism. He is a part of the problem
Savannah
01:19:54
Agree with Pam
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:20:17
http://www.longbeach.gov/finance/city-budget-and-finances/budget/budget-information/
Liz
01:20:32
It felt so invasive to have to come out of school from Cabrillo HS and want to just hang out with friends at the park but we couldn’t because there would be 3,4,5, LBPD cars parked on the grass just sitting idle,
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:20:45
City budget information can be found at the link I provided above
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:20:53
Recommend this interview for recommendations:
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:20:56
https://www.scpr.org/programs/fresh-air/2020/06/12/80100/
R
01:21:11
Too many food deserts in many LB communities
Liz
01:21:15
Nobody felt comfortable hanging at Admiral Kidd park when there’s just 5 LBPD cars parked in the middle of the park
Pam Tan LBC
01:22:18
Most teachers in LBUSD are white and live outside of the school district. If true, a concerted effort must be made to hire/ retain teachers who are representative of the community
Christopher Covington
01:22:28
Defend Black LifeEnd the war on Black peopleDefund the policeEnd corruption with Police Officer Association (POA): No political or any other contributions to elected officials or candidatesLBUSD Cut all ties and contracts with LBPD:And Re-Invest in *ethnic studies *end zero tolerance *hire more Black teachers *provide tutoring *academic counseling *school psychologists before school startsDefund LB police department budgetInvest in: *ending systemic institutional anti-Blackness*Care not copsCommunity control over police accountability
Savannah
01:22:28
You can get the money for what Charlie is talking about from the hundreds of millions of dollars currently given to LBPD
Savannah
01:22:34
Care not cops
Liz
01:22:45
Admiral Kidd is on the Westside, I’m sure police weren’t hanging around Lakewood or Milikan HS , like why do the target the Westside and Northside like that? Its not fair, just because there are more Brown and Black kids in those areas the White kids.
Jill & David
01:23:02
ag
Jill & David
01:23:21
agree - free city WiFi
Lawrence Rosenthal
01:23:31
digital divide is one concrete area to be addressed
Savannah
01:23:32
agree
Jill & David
01:23:37
so important for virtual education
Pam Tan LBC
01:23:43
LBPD school safety officers are offered a higher starting hourly salary rate than teachers even though they are only required police academy training a now college education. Meanwhile teachers go to school 5-10 years ad most schools don’t even have a nurse (full time or part time) nor mental health counseling services on campus
Marianne she/her Drummond
01:23:50
yes Kim!
Savannah
01:23:56
Yes Kim
Sarah Montoro
01:24:00
Agreed. I did not know this session would be limited.
Gricelda Alcantar
01:24:08
Yes Kim!
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:24:11
here is the survey once more for those that maybe missed the link:
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:24:13
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rnXAM2w4nZv_YtuJLcwpLCOqucNYtIqOxujNqNDBej4/edit#responses
Pam Tan LBC
01:24:25
Part of the solution would be working with local groups who are already working with their communities. First step, partner with BLM LB for starters
Christopher Covington
01:24:27
Not renew the contracts for School Resource Officers with the Long Beach Police Department for the upcoming school year.
Savannah
01:24:37
Did you guys know the cast of Vanderpump rules released a Black Lives Matter statement before the city of long beach?
Marianne she/her Drummond
01:25:03
Everything Kim said! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
ADRIANNE's iPhone
01:25:03
I agree. Black voices first.
Sarah Montoro
01:26:23
YES
Liz
01:26:28
Yes
Marianne she/her Drummond
01:27:10
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Pam Tan LBC
01:27:31
many police officers easily make $200k salaries with only a HS education, while school teachers make 1/4 of that with an advanced degree. Can we address that?
Marianne she/her Drummond
01:32:20
Same here...willing to make space.
Savannah
01:34:43
google.com
Pam Tan LBC
01:35:06
The FIRST error was not listening in the first place. These topics are not new, they should have started listening a LONG time ago
Pam Tan LBC
01:35:51
second error is not finding a way to ensure those who are at an economic, technological, and internet disadvantage have an opportunity to participate. Were mailers sent out about these sessions???
Christopher Covington
01:36:55
When will it be released publicly?
Liz
01:38:12
This is not..
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:38:52
We did not send out mailers about this but can relay that recommendation.
Liz
01:39:20
How are you not concerned with Black Lives Matter?
Marianne she/her Drummond
01:39:41
Long Beach SURJ - Please contact me (Marianne Drummond) at 1859mdrummond@gmail.com. Showing Up for Racial Justice organizes white people to work in allyship with, and accountability to, Black Lives Matter.
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:40:13
There’s a listening framework, reconciliation, but what is the ACTION framework?
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:40:26
BLM has a good ACTION framework
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:40:52
We’re here because Black Lives Matter
Pam Tan LBC
01:41:06
YES EDUARDO the framework is a plan for a plan. Why wasn’t the city listening before the Framework was written?
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
01:41:19
Eduardo, the community listening sessions are meant to inform what the action will look like. once the listening sessions have wrapped up, all of the information that's been synthesized from these will be moved on to city council and they will set policy for charter, budget, and policy reform
Pam Tan LBC
01:41:22
Again, these topics, these stories, these anecdotes are NOT new
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:42:29
i’m a researcher. I know that qualitative data is filtered though a lens. so that’s why an ACTION framework is needed now.
Pam Tan LBC
01:42:41
will the city help establish a completely citizens police oversight committee without influence from anyone in the city, specifically the city manager
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:43:43
Meaning data is ALWAYS filtered through a perspective, a lens if you will. A robust ACTION framework to guide these listening sessions is needed.
Liz
01:43:44
I dfeel uncomfortable that someone who “isn’t concerned with Black Lives Matter” and talked about how wealthy he was is here instead of a person of color who would ABSOLUTLEY care about Black Lives Matter
Leon Fultheim
01:45:37
I suggest having transcripts of these sessions made available to all.
Pam Tan LBC
01:45:59
Oh speaking on data, the LBPD are the ones who will be collecting data for this framework btw
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:46:03
Agree with Leon.
Savannah
01:46:13
I agree there should be no cops in schools
Christopher Covington
01:47:19
Eliminate the following from the police budget and reinvest in the health department: Community Partnership Programming, Youth Explorer Program, Juvenile Crimes and Services, Quality of Life: Homeless Mental Illness Street Vendors Graffiti, Administration and Management: Travel & Training Requests Project Assignments Homeland Security Grant Management, Neighborhood Services Specialist III, Nurse II, Nurse Practitioner, School Guard/H26, School Guard/H28
Savannah
01:48:10
i agree with subpoena power for a civilian oversight committee
Liz
01:48:42
Disgusting how LBUSD used LBPD to forcibly remove POLY HS teacher MYRIAM GURBA, a teacher who spoke out and defended her black students after RACIST white Poly HS teacher LIBBY HUFF called Black STUDENTS the N word
Lawrence Casuga
01:48:44
thanks Chris, can definitely comb through this list and compare
Liz
01:48:55
Black students spoke about it here: https://medium.com/@malaialtibbs/enough-of-huff-students-of-long-beach-poly-high-school-speak-out-9afd81df4d6b
Leon Fultheim
01:49:59
Do all of the LBPD wear body cams while on patrol?
Liz
01:50:12
And who got fired? Not the racist white teacher Libby Huff, it was the one who spoke out against LBUSD, Myriam Gurba, who was trying to protect her students.
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:50:19
Thanks Charlie
Liz
01:51:01
The City of Long Beach needs to PROTECT the STUDENTS against LBPD
Marianne she/her Drummond
01:51:33
BLM has comprehensive ideas and have been advocating for these solutions for years...not just for these three weeks.
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:52:15
LB Post Interview with BLM LB:
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:52:17
https://www.facebook.com/longbeachpost/videos/260354465035205/
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:52:32
That was second part. will post first part momentarily.
Christopher Covington
01:52:34
What is the question on the table?
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:52:43
Solutions
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:53:21
first part, but glitchy:
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:53:22
https://www.facebook.com/longbeachpost/videos/667948257268998/
Eduardo Lara Él/He/Him
01:54:58
Have another Zoom mtg. Thank you for those keeping mtg centered on Defund Police and BLM.
Liz
01:55:02
This will not be a safe space if LBPD is involved
Liz
01:55:12
No LBPD
Liz
01:55:21
No LBPD at the table
Christopher Covington
01:55:48
No LBPD
No LBPD at the table
Liz
01:56:22
No LBPD
Lawrence Casuga
01:57:24
Third party, underline that 10x
Lawrence Casuga
01:59:38
i suppose there’s the potential they could sign on or get a ticket as an….off duty citizen
Pam Tan LBC
02:01:18
It’s not so much about who is on the board, it’s about who has the power to veto any of the commissions decisions
Pam Tan LBC
02:01:33
I.e. city manager, Tom Modica, should not have veto power over this commission
Savannah
02:01:40
I agree
Savannah
02:01:53
All complaints about the police should be public knowledge
Pam Tan LBC
02:02:52
That would be a start
Savannah
02:04:59
I agree. Meet with black leaders.
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
02:05:33
Leon, all patrol officers wear body cams
Theresa’s iPhone
02:06:32
Thank you. And white people need to SUPPORT the efforts.
Pam Tan LBC
02:06:58
Yes we need more affordable housing
Marianne she/her Drummond
02:07:21
Kim 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Christopher Covington
02:07:35
Moratorium on any budget cuts to the Health Department, Workforce Development, Parkers Department for the next ten years.
Savannah
02:07:35
I agree with Kim.
Liz
02:08:06
Yes Kim
Liz
02:08:24
Get Kim on the team she knows what she’s talking about
Pam Tan LBC
02:09:27
What people are you connecting with?
Pam Tan LBC
02:09:30
names please
Pam Tan LBC
02:11:02
What means? be specific
Pam Tan LBC
02:11:27
which is also a problem. Why aren’t you utilizing all forms of social media?
Pam Tan LBC
02:11:42
Most people here had to find out about these meetings second hand
Kim
02:12:21
Link for all... http://longbeach.gov/health/healthy-living/office-of-equity/reconciliation/
Pam Tan LBC
02:12:35
Will the city defund police to invest in the early childhood education strategic plan and the black infant health program to decrease maternal and infant mortality?
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
02:12:44
http://www.longbeach.gov/health/healthy-living/office-of-equity/
Savannah
02:13:35
I agree
Pam Tan LBC
02:14:21
What does “media release” mean? We never would have heard about this without instagram connections ... how is this media release going to reach everyone?
Pam Tan LBC
02:14:42
There was no post made by @longbeachcity on instagram. No post from the mayor.
Kim
02:15:26
This was a circus and we are running around in circles. I don't feel heard or validated in this process. I felt harmed by people on this call. I am truly disappointed.
MAURICE’s iPad
02:16:35
Kim, I agree with your comments.
Niko Galvez
02:16:54
and silence is okay too. if you're not black - be okay with the silence and not speaking - create that space for black voices. of all that is confusing about this call - that's been made very clear
Pam Tan LBC
02:17:06
We agree, Kim. Tom Modica should not have been on this call but we want to thank the people who called him out.
Christopher Covington
02:19:42
Please extend this meeting for 30 min.
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
02:20:20
Christopher, we will have other meetings that will be longer
Theresa’s iPhone
02:20:34
structural change will require a citywide effort. Tom, as CM, is the leader of this organization and needs to be exposed to these comments. You should want him to hear you. I believe it is very important that he participates and hears everyone.
Theresa’s iPhone
02:21:51
Would we criticize and interpret it as a lack of interest and not caring if he was not here?
Christopher Covington
02:22:27
Create space and opportunities for relationship building by CBOs.
Christopher Covington
02:22:35
nvest in mental and emotional health supports and professionals, not more police.
Theresa’s iPhone
02:24:04
I don’t think they were asking what defund means, but what YOU would like it to mean in LB.
Christopher Covington
02:24:15
Genuinely engage Youth, Parents, Educators, Communities.Ensure that youth, family and community engagement does not tokenize these stakeholders, but rather, incorporates their voices into decision-making and offers opportunities for collaborative leadership, which distributes leadership and models the democratic principles upon which our nation was founded.
Pam Tan LBC
02:24:22
No they literally asked what it means
Pam Tan LBC
02:24:59
Even if they were asking what it means to Long Beach, there have been hundreds of conversations about defunding police in Long Beach by various groups, most notably BLM LB
Savannah
02:25:44
The information is out thrre already. They came unprepared and that was obvious.
Sovachana
02:27:25
Whether we accept it or not, race divides us and virtually shapes everything around our community. Stand up and raise your concerns and injustice because "Enough is Enough". Be anti-racist and BE “the change you wish to see” (Gandhi). America needs a culture change (sweeping change) towards racism, not only passing other laws. It will take generations. Invest in the education of the young and future generations. Teachers, educators, parents, and community leaders, policymakers, and government officials have a crucial role to implement and nurture the fundamental change inside the mind and hearts of the youth to make sure "NEVER AGAIN" will happen again here.
Theresa’s iPhone
02:27:55
Perhaps this was an opportunity for individual residents to express their interests and ideas. I guess I have a hard time criticizing ANY opportunity that is given to residents to provide input directly to City management.
Pam Tan LBC
02:28:40
These opportunities should be inherent. The city doesn’t get a cookie for putting this on. this is something that should have always existed
Charlie Trujillo
02:28:49
i dont think I should have attended this meeting, but I had no idea. I am embarrassed.
Savannah
02:29:00
I hear you, Theresa. But again, our city should be giving a good faith effort to understand first.
Theresa’s iPhone
02:29:29
Thank you Sovachana! Totally agree!
Savannah
02:29:39
Charlie, you should not feel embarrassed. The city communicated poorly about what this is or how it works.
Pam Tan LBC
02:30:05
Okay, why were you not already listen? These are not new topics, new ideas, new stories, new anecdotes.
Liz
02:30:53
Why is it TAKING SO LONG?? FOR A STATEMENT OF SOLIDARITY???
Theresa’s iPhone
02:31:17
Take it as a start. Continue to participate. Continue to support.
Debra
02:31:19
I'm hear to listen, and learn and understand "what's mine to do" in support of BLM. if this is not the space tell me where I can go to stand with and in support.
Jerlene Tatum
02:31:28
@charlie don't be embarrassed. this is on the city council for rushing this process and not properly framing.
Liz
02:31:56
Who is Charlie? Is she a city official?
Theresa’s iPhone
02:32:02
EVERYONE must be welcome here!
Pam Tan LBC
02:32:54
Did he just say PD budget might go up?
Liz
02:33:05
i heard that too Pam
kecolop
02:33:15
No, that the budget cut might be more.
Liz
02:33:23
ABOLITION
Theresa’s iPhone
02:33:24
He said the percentage of their budget cut may go up.
Pam Tan LBC
02:33:30
We don’t want PD to part of this process at all
Pam Tan LBC
02:33:40
okay thanks for clarifying everyone
Liz
02:33:41
Fire Luna and start over please
Christopher Covington
02:33:44
Address WHITE SUPREMACY
Pam Tan LBC
02:34:08
What’s the accountability plan though? We don’t want to just submit recommendations we want to be part of the actual implementations
Theresa’s iPhone
02:34:11
Thank you for listening on this forum Tom.
Liz
02:34:23
We need town halls in PERSON
Liz
02:34:37
Not everyone has zoom
Liz
02:34:43
well access to it
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
02:34:50
Hi Liz, we would have liked to do these town halls in person but unfortunately cannot do that due to the city's health order and the pandemic
Christopher Covington
02:34:56
Racism is a symptom of WHITE SUPREMACY, WHITE SUPREMACY IS THE ISSUE!!
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
02:35:03
we want to protect the health of our community members and staff and cannot safely congregate in large groups
Liz
02:35:20
I know but you guys the city has reopened the economy
Liz
02:35:24
Like come on
Pam Tan LBC
02:35:31
assemble spaces are open
Pam Tan LBC
02:35:36
Churches are open
Liz
02:35:42
You guys HAVE THE SPACES
Pam Tan LBC
02:35:43
why isn’t council chambers
Liz
02:35:47
CONVENTION CENTER
Liz
02:35:55
TERRACE THEATRE
Liz
02:36:35
I lost brain cells here
Teresa Chandler
02:36:42
Teresa.chandler@longbeach.gov
Theresa’s iPhone
02:36:49
You are asking for City staff email.
Tom Modica
02:37:05
tom.modica@longbeach.gov
Shreya.Sharan@longbeach.gov
02:37:07
shreya.sharan@longbeach.gov
Gwen Manning
02:37:14
gwwendolyn.manning@longbeach.gov
Teresa Chandler
02:37:22
katie.balderas@longbeach.gov
Teresa Chandler
02:37:30
Kelly.colopy@longbeach.gov
Theresa’s iPhone
02:37:31
I’m disappointed in the lack of cooperation from some of the community.
Gwen Manning
02:37:35
oops.... Gwendolyn.manning@longbeach.gov
Alison King
02:37:37
Alison.king@longbeach.gov